Oh, hark!!  What is that incredible screeching sound I hear in the background???

Why…doesn’t that look like some British woman on a broomstick, flying around like some gnat at a horse’s butt??

Oh, noez…woudn’t that be some antiporn zealot named…what??  Bitchy-Who or whatever???  Oh, sooooo sorry, that would be Witchy-Woo??  My apologies.

And what exactly is she screaming about, anyway??  Would it be because I called her bluff and responded to Nine Deuce’s loaded push poll…..errrrrrr, inquiry on how “pro-porn” males like me should feel about how the product they defend harms women??

Oh, I see…she’s complaining that I didn’t respond directly at ND’s blog, that I kept my response over here.

Gee, I wonder why?? Because there was the distinct notion that if I responded there, then Witchy would have been able to fire more of her stink bombs at me from there??

Oh, wait….she says it’s because she just doesn’t want to come over here and read exactly what I wrote….too dangerous for a prim radicalfeminist to even look at this blog.

That’s pretty hilarious, Witchy….since you were so free to go over to Renegade Evolution’s blog and freely blast her congratulating her for getting fired from her volunteer job at the rape crisis center due to her chosen profession.

And Goddess knows that you weren’t scared in the past to come here and view this blog and comment on my words, or comment on words I’ve posted to other blogs.

Now…does that mean that if I decided to go over there to your blog and copy my answers there, would you be willing to post it without any alterations?? Like you would allow posts from other critics of your positions??

Yeah, right. Like that would ever happen.

Maybe now I see why you were so moved to lighten the shade of that stripper pic you stole from Heart and ND to whiten out the racism intended (and BTW, it didn’t work; you can still see the Black faces there); I guess that you need the light because your regular vision is so darkened by your myopia???

Ahhhh…never mind.  Fly far away, Witchy, and take your flying monkeys with ‘ya.  Your act is steadily tiring.

[Major props to Caroline at Uncool for smoking W-W out and smacking her down.]

Tags: more radfem whackiness, Radfem dwama queens

here are people who just don’t know when to let go of their myopias.

And then….there are FeministAnonymist and Ginmar, who don’t even know how to begin to admit their myopias to begin with.

Both of them call themselves \”radical feminists\”….even though their core vision of sexuality is probably closer to the radical RIGHT than to any feminist I know.

Both of them are obsessed with the appearance and personal, private sexual habits of other women…..in the name of \\\”protecting\\\” women from the threat of \”the patriarchy\”. Even if that means denying the agency and humanity of those other women who don’t agree 110% with their beliefs.

And both of them, in not only my opinion, but proven by events and facts, are purified assholes.

Ginmar, of course, you already probably know about….the former Army soldier who served in Iraq, then formed her own LiveJournal blog to rant about her experiences, then converted to the school of \”radicalfeminist\” thought as expressed by the prophecy of Catherine McKinnon, Gail Dines, and Sam Berg, then proceded to use her soapbox as a ramrod against every woman who disagreed with her. (And quite a few men as well.)

FeministAnonymist, on the other hand, is a relatively new addition to the radfem crank crew; she apparently cut her teeth fighting the good fight agaiinst Islam (not just the terrorists, mind you, but the religion as a whole) before, like Ginny, turning her fire on the evil \”fun feminists\” and \\\”sex pozzies\\\” who are so polluting her precious air space and perverting a perfectly good feminist movement.

But both also share a common goal: they dislike independently sexual women with a passion.

And they especially despise women who talk back at them.

Which explains their continuing obsession with…..yeah, you got it…..bashing Renegade Evolution to shreds.

Ginny’s personal stalking of Ren Ev is more than documented (from \”She’s an college-educated SLUT who kneels at the Patriarchy’s COCK!!\” to \”Ms. Plastic Tits\”), and I’ll just refer you to Ren’s blog for the background…..but in a recent comment thread over at I Blame the Patriarchy, Ginny decided to reup the war by attacking Ren for the 456th time for \”trashing feminists\” and lying about her true condition in defense of her profession as a sex worker/porn performer. This time, it wasn’t Ren Ev’s rack that became the object of derision for Gooney Ginny, but her nose:

ginmar Jul 21st, 2008 at 7:55 am
Oh, christ, she’s got a picture of her ass on her blog? And she’s got Ren Ev commenting? Yeah, that’s empowerfulizing. RE’s had her nose broken four times in this emperfullizing career of hers as a stripper, but it’s the feminazis that are mean and awful to her. Jeezus.

The \”picture of her ass\” reference, BTW, is to Sarah over at Season of the Bitch, who did a nice nuclear vent on Ginmar and the rest of the GenderBorg Collective’s bashing of women for their appearance…tapped off by a \”Kiss my HUSTLER panty-clad ass\” moment at the end. (I guess that if the label had been Playboy or Victoria’s Secret or Trashy Lingerie, it wouldn’t have mattered, anyway. And…how ironic for HUSTLER….granny drawers?!?!? Isn’t that a bit…well….modest for the flagship mag of Larry Flynt??)

Ahh..anyways, back on topic….Ren got word of Ginny’s smack and answered back, both through IBTP and her own blog:

RenEv Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:18 am
Ginmar-
Let’s not do this again. Yes, my nose has been broken 4 times: Once in a car accident, once in a sports accident, and yep, by an abusive partner, who happened to be female. Never as part of my job, never due to stripping, or anything like that. My ex partner wasn’t a dancer or a patron of strippers, she was just a violent person. Also, once again dragging out my personal life to prove an argument, and distorting the actual facts of what happened, well, yes, I’m sick of it. My broken noses did not occur in the course of my job, and anyone saying so is not only lying, but very, very unethical.

Now, my broken noses? Talked about in my old LJ, which was “gathered” as part as the infamous Stormy file. But you know, I know I never mentioned getting a broken nose as part of my stripping experiences, because you know what? That’s not what happened. Two of them happened before I even started dancing. Not sure who decided to destort the truth on that one, but hey, what can I expect, right? It’s not like the truth of the situation matters, right?

Now, you would think that that would end that issue, right?? Wrong.

Apparently, the word of a sex worker can’t be accepted as fact amongst certain \\\”feminists\\\”…especially those with long-standing vendettas. This is Ginmar’s reaction to Ren Ev’s revelation about her broken nose:

ginmar Jul 21st, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Drakyn, why are you here? I can easily show those here how you treat feminists.
And frankly I wouldn’t trust anything RE said at all. She appears to have a miserable time as a stripper and porn actress, but she gets really infuriated at feminists who point that out. And she just plain makes shit up about radfems.

Oh, I get it….Renegade Evolution is incapable — in spite of her college education — to speak for herself and defend her life as a sex worker, but Ginmar, merely for being a radical feminist and a opponent of Ren’s existence as a human being, gets not only to define Ren’s experiences, but also her basic emotions about her experiences. Oh…and only she lies about \”radfems\”…not like Ginny’s friends and allies who threatened to out her personal life in front of her family; who have attacked her for her looks, her implants, her skin tone, her heritage, her private sexual preferences…well, simply for being her and not being one of Ginny’s allies, and who have never even deviated one bit from the libel of Ren Ev being the mastermind of the grand plot to destroy radfems now and forever.

This is feminism the way Phyllis Schafly would love to go up against.

But, at least Ginmar has a method to her madness.

FeministAnonymist, on the other hand, is simply like a monkey flailing his own shit at anything that moves…..she just locks and loads.

FemAnon was first discovered when she attempted an ambush on Natalia Antonova (Ukranian native who definitely ROCKS, BTW) because she dared to defend the human rights of Ukranian Arab Muslims. Then, at a blog hosted by an Pakistani emegre who hated Islam as much as she did, FemAnon continued the assault on Natalia, so much so that she got banished from the blog.

On Tuesday, though, FemAnon decided to rent out blog space to defend herself….and while most of her firepower was drawn at Natalia again, she did manage to fire a foul Scud Ren’s way:

The nudity and showing off brings me to the subject of Renegade Evolution. I see that she has quoted me on her infamous blog. I am beginning to think she finds my comments amusing.

I’m not afraid to say that I hate Renegade Evolution. First she pisses people off when she waves her tits in their face but then she is surprised that others get angry with her and dehumanize her. HONEY YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF. You dehumanized YOURSELF. No one in the feminist community owes you anything after what you chose to do.

Yes I believe in older women having authority to use in teaching the younger women a thing or two. I’m not much older than Renegade Evolution but I have more experience and have obviously read more books. I was willing to educate myself a long time ago and have been educating myself for years. I’m not an anti-inellectual like Renegade Evolution. If you come to a bad end, Ren Ev, remember that the real feminists saw it coming. No it’s not a threat. It’s a simple reality check. You let men use you, so don’t be surprised if and when it goes too far.

Once again I DO NOT LIE though. People have suggested that Ren Ev made death threats. She didn’t. She’s too smart for that and her smarts are what make her dangerous to the feminist movement in its whole. But her readership is disgusting and I am afraid of them as any woman with any intuition would be afraid of a mob.

Oh…so nice of you to give Ren that benefit of the doubt, all your other smack aside, FemAnon….and why in the hell would you be so afraid of one blogger??? Because she is a stripper who happens to like sex on her terms?? Because she doesn’t run to the nearest GenderBorg Political Correctness Center to attack every single man with an erection merely because one or two happen to act like assholes??

But that’s not even the most hilarious part of FemAnon’s rant….witness this blast towards someone named \\”Apostate\\” merely for the crime of flashing a bit too much skin for FemAnon’s ideological taste:

I liked The Apostate’s blog but I became angry and upset when I clearly saw she had also posted a suggestive picture of herself. Apostatepakistani doing it is understandable as she is an unwell woman, but a woman of sound mind and with a job doing it is awful and sad.

She’s says she’s doing it because she wants to appear un-Islamic. It might seem like a good idea to those that do not dig deeper, but she is playing into the patriarchy’s hands all over again. Just from a different angle. The “i’m a perky-titted young thing and I’m rebellious” line is as antifeminist as is Islam. You’re no better than a Suicide Girl if you do it.

Put some clothes on, Apostate.

If you care about women at all.

We must have the same standard for everyone. No one is special. Either feminists are equal or they are not. Got it, Apostate?

How nice….so I guess now that opposing the sexual restrictiveness towards women that Islam supposedly represents for \\”radicalfeminists\\” by merely showing \\”a suggestive picture\\” of yourself is as much \\”antifeminist\\” (read that to mean MORE antifeminist) than even the supposed \\”antifeminism\\” of Islam. And it certainly makes \\”feminist\\” like FemAnon look really bad. So, for the good of womankind, Apostate must COVER UP!! Stop showing that nipple!! Hide that midriff!! No skirts above the knee…that would inflame men to rape and pillarage even more than \\”Islamofascist\\” rants from Osama bin Laden!!!

Talk about beating the Right…by outflanking it even further to the Right.

And how nice for FemAnon to speak about feminists being \\”equal\\”…but I guess that some \\”feminists\\” are a bit more equal than others, since those who don’t cover themselves up and spout the \\”not-so-fun\\” radicalfeminist line about not encouraging those EVOL penises aren’t quite allowed to control their destiny like those more \\”educated\\” and \\”informed\\” in the real \\”feminist\\” ideology.

And in case you don’t get the point, FemAnon makes it pretty damn explicit later on, when she decides to whack yet another supposed \\”fun feminist\\”, namely Jill at Feministe (who has a special place on FemAnon’s (s)hit list for not only allowing the dreaded \\”sex pozzies\\” room to speak freely, but even allowing Ren Ev to guest blog without the usually required derision and censure)::

Jill Fillipovic is the original Fake Pretty Feminist. It’s all based on looks it’s all vapid it has nothing to do with women’s liberation. UNTIL WOMEN ARE NO LONGER SEXED UP THEY WON’T BE SEEN AS HUMAN BEINGS BY MEN. Actually these are the women who will never see THEMSELVES as human beings. They’ll be too busy buffing their nails and deodorizing their vaginas, ha!.

Because, of course, only TWUE RADICAL FEMINISTS like Feminist Anonymist are capable of telling such non-women whether or not they deserve to be fully human. Forget about equal pay or domestic violence or economic parity….it’s only about flashing panty and bare midriff and cleavage.

Yeah, right.

Being one such man who happens to LIKE women who show cleavage and thigh (and a whole lot more), and still manages to respect them when they show off the other aspects of their humanity, such as their brains, their intestinal fortitude, and their compassion for other human beings and living carbon life forms, I can attest to the fact that compared to them, the likes of Gooney Gunny Ginmar and Feminist Anonymist just don’t add up. There is more humanity in the left nipples of Caroline, Ren, Apostate, Natalia, and any other of the women FemAnon and Ginny slandered, then there is in the collective human bodies of the GenderBorg and their allies….perhaps that explains why there is such an obsession with constantly ridiculing and libeling them as sluts, whores, trollops, and \\”traitors\\”.

Or, to put it another way: The \\”scoreboard\\” always sucks worst to those on the wrong side of the ass kicking…..and right about now, the \\”sex pozzies\\”, as I see it, are intellectually wielding the boot.

Try not to hate too much, fools.

Tags: Radfem dwama queens, Revenge of the Sexbots

Oh, but this is getting really precious:

So, Luckynickl, fearless GenderBorgian and defender of Womyn Warriors everywhere against the evol male erections and transsexuals stalking women’s restrooms, decides to do an attempt at drive-by smack at Ren Ev’s place regarding Ren’s most recent post whacking the hypocrisy of certain “radical femininsts” on porn and sex work.

The resulting lunacy is an instant classic study on how Lucky has totally lost it.

Ren’s already done her own deconstructive fisking of Lucky at her place; but I thought that this deserved a special SmackDog touch as well. So, once more, into the breach, my friends, we go…and let rip the ‘Dog of Rebuttal:

Using Ren’s fisking as the template, of course (Ren’s excerpts in pink, Lucky’s rebuttal in blue):

Certain Feminists: Porn presents unrealistic images of women’s bodies and portrays all women as objects. It defines them solely as things to be used for male pleasure.

True.

Uhhh….not really, Lucky….and how in the hell can porn be both “unrealistic” in terms of body images (and apparently, she hasn’t been anywhere near the Internet often, or she would see a much more wide range of body type diversity); while at the same time deem it totally believable in defining women as “objects to be used for male pleasure”??? As if women didn’t watch porn for their own pleasure?? (Oh, I forgot….women aren’t even SUPPOSED to even HAVE sex with men or even experience sexual pleasure with men; that is SOOOOOO…well, PATRICHIAL and MALE-identified!!! That has to be reserved exclusively for political lesbian separatists like you, right, Lucky???

These same feminists spend a whole lot of time judging women for any action or alterations they make with their bodies, outright insulting people’s appearances, and mocking rituals/styles of dress they don’t approve of.

Personally, I could care less what you wear. Hey, run through the streets naked if that’s what pulls your trigger! I certainly would if I could get away with it! However, we don’t live in that kind of world. You know it and I know it so let’s cut the crap. In lieu of this, it’s a bit absurd to intentionally wave a red flag at a bull and then start whining that you got the attention you were looking for and the bull attacked you.

Ahhh, I see, Lucky…so if any woman wears a bikini to the beach or skin tight blue jeans and a midriff-baring halter top out on the town, and then is approached by a man who proceeds to molest or even rape her, then it must be HER fault for dressing that way and inciting the supposed natural male lust to rape any woman showing a hint of skin. And ANY and ALL women who dress the same way and DON’T get molested or even touched by the majority of men are still responsible for that rape happening…because even though they were never touched and may actually be respected by most men, they still should be blamed for enticing and fueling male erections…which, according to Lucky and the rest of the GenderBorg, are the sole and exclusive source of male oppression of women worldwide.

I know Islamic fundamentalists and Christian fanatics who aren’t even that up front with that kind of antifeminist “cover yourself up” crap.

Oh…and if you have actually been to a bullfight, you would know that it is actually the BULL, not the matador, who gets beat down and killed in the end.

Certain Feminists: Porn degrades women.

True.

Speak for yourself, Lucky….there are plenty of women and men, both in and out of porn, who believe otherwise.

And notice that Lucky doesn’t argue that porn degrades MEN…that would actually be an attempt to humanize them, and we just can’t have that, now can we???

Certain Feminists: Porn propagates lies about women.

True. And tells the truth about men.

Oh, yeah, right. More men read religious texts than they do porn; there are far more sources of non-sexual imagery than there are sexual media; and we have had over 1,000+ years of organized religion and culture imposing gender inequality while opposing even the most minimal sexual expression for women….and yet, it’s porn only produced in the past 30 or so years that exposes the ultimate “truth” about men. Riiiight, Lucky…and I guess that Birth of a Nation says all there is to know about Black folk, too??

Certain Feminists: We have the concerns of women at heart.

Whose best interests and benefit do you work for? Women’s? Why would you imagine that being a penis accessory benefits women as a class?

Oh, nice…and what better way to express the concerns of women at heart than to denigrate a real live woman as “a penis accessory”. I guess that “cumdumpster” or “sexbot” were already used up, then??

Besides, doesn’t Lucky know that a lot of supporters of the GenderBorg happen to be…you know, married to MEN??? Or, happen to be MEN themselves?? I don’t know if she would be calling out John Stoltenberg or Bob Jensen for having such “accessories”, ‘ya think??

Certain Feminists: We care about sex workers.
You care about sex workers so much that you oppose them having legal rights, better working conditions, access to condoms, equal treatment under the law, and actively decry anyone who works for these things as pimps, liars, or enablers. Oh, and you care about the ones who say what you want to hear, until they stop, then, you toss them aside and slander them. Hell, most of you won’t even call them sex workers even if they repeatedly say that is what they prefer to be called!

Well, we also don’t support drug dealers, bank robbery, embezzlement, arson, murder and a host of other things even tho women do them. Oh! How rude of feminists not to support all the choices of women!

So…having consensual sex with willing men and women with compensation, and actively being concerned about their well being and protection, is now on the same plane with murder, arson, and “drug dealing”. How very feminist of you, Lucky.

Actually, I’d say that Lucky would consider sex work to be WORSE than arson or murder or even drug dealing, because of its explicitly sexual nature, and because it encourages the EVOL MALE GAZE and THE COCK, which, if I catch her meaning, is the main source of women’s oppression. Thusly, even arson (directed at adult bookstores) and murder (disguised as state sanctioned “death penalty” toward “porn users”) would be justified as a means of the elimination of said oppression. (And need I reset Lucky’s previous positions on how men should be basically reduced in population directly??)

The next one is Lucky freeballing it alone:

BTW, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a man refer to sex workers as sex workers. Shall I repeat what men refer to sex workers as? Hmmm… how comes you’re not pissing and moaning about that? You don’t have double standards, do you?

P.S. It’s only slander if it’s not true.

Oh, let me have this this one, Ren….here’s a quote from an actual WOMAN who uses one such term derided by Lucky…but in a much different context:

If these activists truly wanted to improve the lot of sex workers (which, of course, they don’t; they merely want to do away with the sex industry), they would insist upon thorough and nonjudgmental sex information for clients as well as whores. One basic piece of information would be that women – and whores – do not exist to be sexually used by men, but that any sexual interaction, including a paid one, benefits from negotiation. This would facilitate the climate of respect that anti-sex work demagogues claim is absent in a paid act of sexual entertainment or gratification. The paucity of sex-positive discussion about what is possible in a commodified context often negatively affects sex workers themselves.

In fact, when we whores see a client or when a peepshow worker or stripper interacts with a customer, the presence or absence of respect has much to do with how sex-positive the client or customer is – and something to do with our own sex-positivity. It also depends upon each person’s degree of self respect and presence or absence of sexual shame. Men who have taken (and internalized) the most damaging blows around their right to sexual pleasure are among the most unpleasant clients to deal with. Unfortunately, the well-publicized opinions of the anti-sex work crowd are highly judgmental about the motives of those who pay for sexual pleasure and entertainment. I have encountered many men whose self-acceptance – and social skills – have been impaired by hearing too much media credence given to the opinions of people who are in no position to make even an educated guess about what friendly relations between whores and their clients would be like. Sex-positive feminists are only now beginning to get enough media attention that their message can trickle down to these men and to other women.

The author of that quote: Dr. Carol Queen, former whore…..ahhhh, I mean, sex worker, sex positive activist, and founder of the Center for Sex and Culture. Is that what you mean by “what men refer to sex workers as”, Lucky???

And BTW….I refer to sex workers as “sex workers” all the time….and plenty of other men do, too.

Certain Feminists: Porn & Sex Work Stereotype women and make all women seem available or useable, willingly and eagerly, for sex.Humm, so…all men hate women, all men are entitled assholes, all men are scum, all men are stupid, so on, are not stereotypes?

Well, yeah, I think that about sums men up. But add to the list lying, thieving, cowardly bullies and by jove, I think you’ve got it!

Yeah…now, does that mean that Sam Berg, Stormcloud, and the rest of the GenderBorg are hiding their “penis accessories”?? BTW…still waiting for that apology to “The Other Miriam” for mistaking her for Ren… *crickets*

Certain Feminists: We speak on behalf of women.
Did the entire female populace of the world have an election and give you that honor and duty? Humm, never got my ballot.

Maybe it’s because felons aren’t allowed to vote?

Oh, but I thought that “radical feminism” was supposed to represent ALL women, not just those who passed the loyalty test and paid the poll tax. Silly me.

And last time I checked, Ren was a fully-abled citizen with no criminal record.

Certain Feminists: Porn Causes Rape No, rapists cause rape.

Well, no, porn is not the cause. Men are the cause. But porn most certainly does contribute to rape. Just consider it gas being poured on an already raging fire. Serial killers have admitted that porn played a major role in their rape, torture and murder of women. But you’re going to deny it? So I’m curious. How do you manage to breathe with your head so far up your ass? Scuba gear?

Now, I will ignore the “men are the cause” smack (and the not-so-thin implication that all men who have erections at the sight of scantily clad or naked women willingly performing consensual sex acts for or with them is the equivalent to rape), and go straight to the attempt by Lucky to play the “Ted Bundy” card from the bottom of her stacked deck. First off, most serial killers tend to be masters of manipulation and deception in the first place (that’s why they become “serial” killers to begin with). Secondly, they tend to be pretty much deeply sexually repressed people who act out their rages at those whom they are attracted to. And finally, they tend to target people in already stigmatized groups which do not have the cultural or political power to defend themselves….that would usually mean, they target prostitutes, sex workers, and those who fit the “slut” stereotype. You know…THE VERY DAMN PEOPLE THAT LUCKY WOULD THROW UNDER THE BUS AS INSUFFICIENTLY “FEMINIST”.

Oh…and not even Ted Bundy, for all his manipulation, even came close to outrightly blaming porn for his rages; it was that great radical feminist sympathizer Rev. James Dobson (who just so happened to interview Bundy at his Death Row cell) who egged Bundy to the “porn caused his killings” theory…..and we all know that Jim Dobson has really no hidden agendas, right??

Certain Feminists: We listen to the needs of women/sex workers.

Depends on what the needs are. See above about drug dealing, bank robbery, arson, etc.

Another reminder of the Maxwell Taylor doctrine: “We are all for self-determination….as long as they deternine OUR way.

(Maxwell Taylor, BTW, was a former US Army General who organized a large part of the Vietnam War strategy.)

Certain Feminists: Well, you can’t count on the word of women with a vested interest in the sex industry!

Well, that’s a little like asking an alcoholic why he drinks.

Yeah..because anyone who doesn’t fall head first into Lucky’s ideology is automatically spit out as either an ignorant “sex bot”/”cumdumpster” or a “paid agent of the patriarchy”…besides, we know that the real motive is to shame the alcoholic/sex worker into quitting for his/her own good and that of society. But, please, we won’t put her in jail….that’s just reserved for the “johns” and “pimps” who “use” her.

It also sets you up nicely to play a patronizing game of Mother Knows Best, by your own rules of course…

As opposed to what you advocate? Father knows best? Hey, do you think if you kiss daddy’s ass enough, he’ll save yours? So what do you think you’ll be doing in a couple of years when men consider you an old, haggard, washed up, used up has-been, and toss you to the side of the road like a used up rag doll? Or do you think with enough plastic surgery maybe men won’t notice and you can pretend you’re 18 forever?

Oh, Lucky, Lucky, Lucky…why did you have to go THERE??? For the record, Ren Ev is in her middle 30s, and is long past the usual age of which it is assumed that porn girls and prostitutes are “washed up.” Plus, she has DEGREES and stuff, which means that she will probably find a way to expand her already copious brain cells. Not to mention, she saves her money for the future.

Also..considering the most recent trending of most popular porn towards the “MILF/Cougar” brand of more mature, experienced, and assertive women, I’m guessing that Ren and other middle-aged women will not be trolling for work any time soon. Ask Nina Hartley….or Vanessa del Rio.

Me thinks that Lucky should be a bit more concerned with what will happen when most women see her ideology for the sexist, erotophobic, rancid bullshit that it is, and begin abandoning HER and her “sisters” in droves.

P.S. Stop calling yourself a feminist. You’re about as feminist as my brother’s left nut. I mean, you could sit in a garage and call yourself a car and all, but that doesn’t make you one, now does it?

Trust me on this. No one will mistake you for a feminist. You can bullshit your parents, you can bullshit your friends, you can bullshit the world. But do yourself a favor and stop bullshitting yourself, ok?

Ahhh, but how soon you forget, Lucky: Ren never considered herself a “feminist”, in fact, she’s pretty much written off the word as describing herself (that what “expatriarte” means, you know).

The real issue here, though, is how LUCKY not only considers herself a “feminist”, but decides all for herself to rid all other women who don’t follow the GenderBorg party line should not be considered to be “feminists”. Considering the kind of “feminism” that Lucky sells, I’d say that Ren’s on the right track.

And we all know from her previous smack how much of an expert on bullshit Lucky is…now do we???

Luckynickl is a feminist the way David Duke is a civil rights activist. Enough said on her.

Tags: Radfem asshattery, Radfem dwama queens

Update: Well, surpuriiiiiiiiiizzzze, surpuriiiiiiiize, surprise, as Gomer Pyle (the original from Mayberry) would say: Good old Heart(less) has entered the fray in defense of the Grand GenderBorg Diva; yesterday she reposted the same edict from “Miss Sammi Berg” that Witchy and Laurelin posted before, and then allowed the Collective hivemind to vent their spleen. And they were all in attendence, too: Luckynkl, Arantxa, Laurelin, Maggie Hays, and a few other regulars all made proper comments defending Sam and praising Karla Mantilla for her sterling job as stand-in for the “censored” Sammi. Apparently, the new party line is that it was indeed Ren Ev who both set up the W&M panel to squeeze out Sam (with assistance from the panel organizer Constance, who obviously is hiding her genuine pro-porn bias) and planned the earlier bust-in of the Genderberg forums….and that they were exactly right in their efforts to seek out and destroy her….even if she was nowhere near there; or that the “Miriam” they did target turned out to by the wrong one. But, being a Womyns’ Warrior means never having to say “I’m sorry”, right??

The most significant lunacy — aside from the usual bit, which includes a testimonial of love from Karla — comes from this comment posted by Heart(less) further down the thread:

I’m moderating this thread strictly and won’t allow it to be pissed upon in any way, shape or form. At RE’s the male pornhounds — including a fairly scary hardcore sm pornographer — are there full force; some of the threads about this over there are about 90 percent men. I’m also going to be careful about approving men’s comments here, even friendly fire. Every woman here supports Sam and her decision and has said so very strongly, including Karla. I think we are in solidarity and it’s important that we stand in solidarity.

Oh, yeah, right…like actually going to Ren’s blog (and Heart should really get her blogs straight; since the Blog of Pro-Porn Activism is more a group effort (me, Ernest Greene, Ren Ev, Trinity, Amber Rhea, Iamcuriousblue…and BTW, that still doesn’t add up to 90% male, even using GenderBorg math), and actually reading the damn threads wouldn’t reveal that most of the posters there are indeed women (unless Rootentoot, Kim, Octaglore, Trinity, Belledame, Daisy, and the rest are hiding their dicks somewhere).  Or, like the fact that when you basically censor any attempt, however minor, to deviate from the group cult worship and the party line, of course you will say that “every woman here supports Sam and her decision”….because anyone who doesn’t simply gets nuked into silence.

And talk about spin that would impress even Bill O’Reilly; get a load of this from Heart(less):

Yes, I know what you mean, Arantxa and I know that they are spiteful towards Sam. But, in light of what they’ve said here, in the future they cannot claim (1) that radical feminists refuse to debate them so far as pornography goes; (2) that they all showed up for a debate and no radical feminist came; (3) that radical feminists mistreat them in debates. (4) that radical feminists are afraid to debate them; (5) that radical feminists cannot hold their own in debate. Posting their comments here creates a record of what has happened, a history. Whatever ends up gone in the future, for whatever reason, if posts or blogs are deleted, the record here remains and will not change.

Ahhh, OK…..so let me read that one more time: Sam invites herself to a debate; then chickens out when she can’t control who her opponent is…but it’s a victory for HER side because the other side was attempting to sandbag HER?!?!?!  Yeah, right, so that explains why the organizers were willing to invite the likes of Gail Dines or John Probert or Sam Berg in the first place???? Or the fact that they got Karla Mantilla to represent at the last minute, rather than just pulling out of the debate entirely??? Oh, but I thought that Ren was so violent against “radical feminists” that she would not even allow them to make even one statement before beating them up??  This is like the New England Patriots spinning that because they won 16 games this last NFL season and led for three quarters in the Super Bowl, they should be given the Super Bowl trophy despite losing the actual game to the New York Giants, regardless of the final score.  Actually, this is really more apropos to an old Dallas Cowboys fan saying that though their team didn’t even make the playoffs, they still should be ranked #1 because the ultimate winner was too scared to face the Cowboys anyway.

To paraphrase an old Olivia classic ballad title: Please, Mistress, Please.  This song is old and tiring.

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And the hits just keep on coming.

Apparently, Sam Berg didn’t think that her attempts to spin her way out of crawfishing out of the William and Mary debate wasn’t quite good enough, she has now, through the sockpuppetry of Witchy-Woo, fired a second blast attempting to shift the blame from her to Ren Ev and those evol, baaaaad “pro-pornies” who stalk “radical feminists” like her.

The most interesting facet about this latest round, though, is how Sammy attempts to twist and turn to her advantage a previous incident involving a momentary breach in the GenderBorg defense shields, and the paranoid reaction results.

Ren has ably and adeptly reset the entire background at her blog….but for the lazy, here’s the abridged edition:

Last year around this time, Pony — one of the principled commisars of the GenderBorg Collective — posted to the Genderberg forum’s supposedly protected firewalled section this comment attempting to dismiss Ren as a mere plant of “the pornographers”:

“I believe Ren Ev is porn marketing. There are many ways to market. What she’s doing is called astro turfing. I wrote about it in that other thread. This type of marketing gets those people who don’t like ads, but don’t get that ads can take many forms, and one of the most successful is to make the AD seem like a program, or an article, or a blog. She’s a front, something like BitchPhD is. That’s another type of advertising. Ren Ev’s being paid to popularize porn. No marketing initiative would ignore that type of marketing and the big porn market is now being managed by Time Warner and it’s peers with all their marketing engine. This astro turfing is far the most effective nowadays, when people are sick of ads, marketers can still use methods like this to slide by. All those people who are drawn to REs blog, daily grow more and more accustomed to seeing her as just another performer. She’s popularizing it. Taking the sting ot of it. Apparently she wrote about ass to mouth recently. No problem. Just use listerine. And they listen to her. She’s marketing. She’s archived by google. She comes up on searches for words and subject matter used in everyday searches. And that’s the point of her blog.”

Now, I’ll pass for now the question on how someone can be such a “porn marketer” without receiving one cent of payment….but that’s neither here nor there.

Anyways…someone who was formerly a regular at the G’Borg forum was so shaken by this statement that she decided to quit the forum…but not without sending the statement to her friend Soulhuntre, who then promptly, like a good radfem hater, alerted Ren by posting it to her blog as a comment on another thread on the Wheelock College antiporn whitewash…errrrr, conference. She also decided to come out public with her own brief blog, in which she promised to blow off the lid on what she called “radical feminist terrorism”. (The blog only lasted two posts, though, amid concerns raised about the practice of respecting the privacy of private forum content.)

Nevertheless, once the word got out to the G’Borg collective that their security was breached, the response was as rapid as the original Borg’s assimilation of galaxies. Accusations flew of forum hacking, of a “pro-porn” spy lurking within the G’Berg forums, of a plot by Ren Ev to infiltrate the Collective and destroy it from within…..in other words, the usual paranoia you’d expect from the Womyn Warrior Cult.

Ultimately, the main thrust of the fire was directed at Ren…..and thusly, we saw the beginnings of Stormcloud’s “bees” smack, as well as her subsequent declaration of full scale war on Ren through outing her and revealing her private information. Never mind that Ren actually deleted the offending citation when called out on it, or that she never physically threatened or even emailed Sam and the G’Borg folks on the subject of their firewall breach…..in their minds, Ren had to be swiftly punished, and soon.

So..what does this have to do with the present fracus?? In a name: “Miriam”.

You see, “Miriam” used to be Ren Ev’s old Internet handle; she used it for her old LiveJournal diary as well as a earlier version of her blog, and she had even kept a Blogger profile using that old handle.

Well….one of their efforts to smear and out Ren/”Miriam” for being such a deviant from the GenderBorg collective hivethink consisted of an email that Sam apparantly sent to a “Miriam” that was briefly a member of the G’berg forums at that time….and was allegedly being assumed to be Ren Ev attempting to undercut the forums from within. An excerpt, posted by Sam this morning via Witchy-Woo:

“I feel bad for you because you’ve obviously been seriously fucked up by people in your life, but if you don’t back off slagging on radfems you’re going to force my hand.I can prove you committed fraud when you lied to moderator deedle about your gb membership, and I can prove you were the one who leaked Pony’s words. Because you’re a pathological liar, you’re probably thinking you can lie your way out of this just like you’ve done other times.You can’t.

I didn’t out you before because I have a soft spot for seriously fucked up women like yourself, but I’m not above initiating legal action to show the ex-sex workers in my little community that their privacy and continued peace of mind is something I take very seriously. If you cared about sex workers one tenth as much as you manipulatively tell people you do then you would not have violated a sex worker-heavy community like you did.

Stop telling lies, Miriam. You’re not as good at it as you think you are.”

(Why does that sound like Sam is quoting Stormy verbatum??? The hive mentality thinking alike, perhaps???)

Now, if Ren actually did attempt to join the Genderberg forums to do such mayhem, then this would only be farcical and ridiculous.

Problem was…..Ren never did such a thing.

And even worse: it seems that in the process of their vendetta against Ren, they might have struck an innocent bystander.

Turns out, that there was indeed a G’Berg member named “Miriam” who did post as a radfem antiporn opponent (you couldn’t even get into the G’Berg forums otherwise)….and when she recieved the email that Sam sent accusing her of “slagging radical feminists” and being Ren in disguise, she freaked out enough that a friend sent an email of protest to Sam about the mistaken identity. Ren went ahead and posted the full content of that email at her blog today (she had hesitated before because the other “Miriam” hadn’t allowed permission to print, but apparently she got so tired of Sam’s shit-spinning that she gave Ren the go-ahead).

Here’s some excerpts (the full text is at Ren’s blog, emphasis added by me):

This morning I received a very worried email from “Miriam,” in response to an email I guess you sent her yesterday (below.) This “Miriam” is actually a woman who has commented only occasionally at my blogs and we have exchanged the occasional email on certain feminist topics. Apparently she attempted to join GBerg sometime last year but I believe she has never posted there to date. Perhaps that is how you came by her email?

She was very upset by your email — who wouldn’t be, I suppose — as she is not up on all the Blog War Drama and had no clue what you were referring to.

Putting 2 and 2 together I think you are assuming this “Miriam” is Renegade Evolution, as I learned on that gigantic thread at Witchy’s that Ren used to go by the name Miriam also.

I assure you, the woman you emailed yesterday is NOT Renegade Evolution, nor has any relationship with any feminist bloggers other than myself. She doesn’t even have a blog.

I told her I would email you in attempt to clear this up as she is pretty shaken by this.

I think well of you enough, Sam, to feel you would never intentionally hurt/upset a woman in this way and I do believe you sent this email to “my Miriam” in error.

(As far as what other drama/issues surround you and other Bloggers, that is your business and I would rather not discuss that.)

I ask you please not contact “my Miriam” further — except maybe with a brief email explaining you mistook her for someone else and not to worry?

I will keep this information between you and I and “my Miriam”, as I have no desire to be drawn into any more blog drama than I have been in the past.

Ren also happened to document Sam’s response to “The Other Miriam” as well, which says a lot in so few words:

Hi —–,

If she’s not the same Miriam then I apologize.

sincere warm wishes to you,

Sam

Apparantly, it’s not so warm today….especially when Sam decided to launch a new charge that “The Other Miriam” — the one she delivered her email warning to — was in fact the GenderBorg leaker, and was also the founder of the supposed “Radical Feminist Terrorism” blog, too….even implying not so subtly that Ren/Miriam was behind it all. Back we go to Sam’s most recent fax:

Throughout May and June the moderators at Genderberg worked like demons to try and figure out which of the 100 or so members was the leak. We ask every member a series of questions before approving them and we were going member by member to try and restore some of the lost sense of security that made one prostituted woman feel she had to leave GB. By early July we pooled our research and figured out that the leak was someone who registered as “Miriam” with a bunch of hooey about being anti-pornography and caring about prostituted women. I deleted “Miriam” from the memberlist and sent her the following email…

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Now ask yourself why RenEv thinks my email to Miriam threatening to reveal that I know Miriam wrote the Radical Feminist Terrorism blog was somehow a threat to reveal personal information about RenEv.

“The following email”, BTW, was the email thusly sent to “The Other Miriam”.

And actually, the threat to reveal personal info on Ren Ev actually took place at Witchy’ s blog a bit later on, by Stormy.

Either way, no one really knows who it was that actually did leak out the original forum blast at “Ren Ev the Porn Marketing Expert”; or who it was that founded the RFT blog. (Although, there was a former radfem who used to have a real vendetta against Heart, even going as far as to mock her ID handle; she might be more the person to pull such a trick like that on her own.)

What we undisputatively know, though, is that an innocent woman — a radical, antiporn feminist, even — has been basically pilloried, smeared, and ultimately shamed in public for a crime she didn’t commit….and the best that Sam Berg can offer her is a flippant “If you weren’t whom I was targeting, I apologize…Warmest wishes” back then?!?!?! And she still attempts to slander “The Other Miriam” now with the same charge today???

Such mighty defenders and protectors of women, this GenderBorg collective is….’ya think???

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