Ahhhh, lookee here….just as I predicted.

Since Sam Berg’s attempt to intimidate the folks at William and Mary College into disinviting Renegade Evolution from their planned porn debate fell flat, they’ve decided to do the typical thing for them: take their marbles and go home.

And what a great spin job they weave to justify their craven act of cowardice, following up on their attempted act of bullying: Apparantly, contrary to actual facts; THEY, not Ren, were being set up by the debate planners; and that Ren was apparently not suitable for their kind of debate.

Sam did a guest post over at Laurelin’s blog today explaining away her decision to bail out….and it’s an instant classic that would shame Bill O’Reilly on spinning lemonade out of piss.

First, she goes to the “We wuz set up” card:

Constance [Silk, one of the main planners of the W&M debate] told me April 2nd that they moved the panel date to the 21st and the rest of April slid by without communication until April 16th when an anti-porn friend informed me that Jill Brenneman and RenEv blogged they would be on the panel. I had received no word from Constance of this and was dumbfounded that wholesale changes were being made to the panel just five days before the event without informing me. I had agreed to do the panel with John and Amanda, and I hadn’t gotten any emails saying she couldn’t attend or that they were looking for a replacement.

So, apparently, the debate planners pulled a switcheroo on Sam, originally saying that she and John Foulbert (another particularly rabid antiporn “feminist” man who makes Bob Jensen look like a humanitarian by comparison) would be able to double-team Amanda Brooks (and then, later, Jill Brenneman); only to surprise her later on by inviting Ren in as a ringer to balance the debate.  And, they didn’t give Sam the privilege of notifying her until late of the change in panel.

OK…..that might be a fair objection; but Sam can’t let it ride; she believes herself the right to actually dictate to the organizers of the debate whom she should debate.

If they had told me Amanda couldn’t make it I would have suggested that pornographers and strip club owners are very easy to find through legal channels so they could have been asked to appear on the panel. I would have also suggested that the number of porn-using men on campus should have been able to produce just one pornsturbator willing to defend his porn consumption. Because I was under the impression that Constance & Co. were being honest with me about their intentions, I chalked up the lack of a pornographer or porn-using man on the panel to inept organizing and the extreme amount of publicity given recently to sex work advocacy at William and Mary.

In other words, Clones…what Sam wanted to do was to have a nice strawperson (a supposed “pro-porn male” or a “pornographer” (I assume, also a male) on the other side to rationalize and justify and project her fundamental myopic agitprop about men who use porn being innate rapists and misogynists…and having to debate actual women would have broken away from her planned template.  Especially a woman like Ren, who would have definitely mopped the floor, cleaned the carpet, and wiped the windows with Sam by dissecting all of her arguments and stereotypes. Being actually exposed to sunshine and light would melt away all the foundations of Sam’s ideological mindset.

Of course, if you are going to beat a hasty retreat, you have to cover your asses with a distracting counterattack…and Chickenhawk Sam is more than worthy to the task.  First, she fires off this blast at Constance as being biased against her (yeah, right, which is why she invited Sam and John Probert there in the first place):

How much sex work advocacy has been given a voice there can be answered with the name Constance. I spoke with John Foubert for the first time Thursday and he told me that Constance is a big pro-sex work advocate on campus and she brought the sex worker show to campus the past three years. A woman named Audrey invited John to the panel because Constance didn’t think he would agree if she asked him. Constance was a guest on Jill’s radio show a few weeks ago, and Jill did a pro-sex work chat with William and Mary college folks a few weeks ago, but in her emails Constance claimed ignorance of the lengthy pro-porn and radical blogosphere debates on this contentious subject.

Constance. Constance said she was excited to have me coming and offered to let me spend Monday night at her place, where she planned on cooking dinner for a group of people post-panel. How do you think it would feel if a pro-choice feminist were invited to a predominantly pro-life campus by a predominantly pro-life group and the pro-life organizer did everything Constance did without revealing her pro-life politics to her pro-choice panelist and house guest?

Gee, I don’t know, Sam….I mean, if the pro-lifers really were respectful enough of opposing views and the debate sponsors were so willing to pay the bills for the pro-choicers to come and debate, then why question their sincerity for balance??  Unless, of course, you were expecting to control the debate yourself and basically eliminate the competition from the beginning??

And besides, we all know that the antiporn radicalfeminist side has a sterling reputation for allowing critics of their views freedom to express themselves…now do we???

And, of course, it’s all a setup by the evol pro-porn Ren to threaten to kill antipornradfems, anyway, according to Sam….hell, Ren all but admitted it!!! She quotes profusely from Ren’s blog about her (Ren’s) expectations about the debate, and then extrapolates:

I agreed to do the panel with John and Amanda three weeks ago. Though it was unethical to make major lineup changes at the last minute like that without telling me and things started feeling really fishy due to the lack of notification about the event anywhere besides pro-john blogs (it’s not listed on W&M’s events calendar or advertised around campus), I agreed to debate Jill. I could not agree to debate Ren, and I don’t suppose I have to tell most of you reading this why but I’ll touch upon it a tad anyway.

Here are Ren’s thoughts on sharing a panel discussion table with me:

“So serious I am taking it very seriously. And looking forward to it in my uniquely grim and serious way. Planning and preparing with a very serious, serious sneer on my face.

And also laughing like a super villain the whole time. Why?

Once upon a time, I had a wish, a dream, a surely wank worthy fantasy of some anti-porn sex work types having to face down, in a forum, and debate those from the other side. And I wanted to be there.”

“And, yes, oh yes, I am seriously looking forward to it. I have so lusted for such an opportunity. Very seriously. And yes, if possible, I will have the whole thing on video. Get your cerebral wanking tissues ready.”

Serious serious sneers, super villain mocking laughter, wank worthy fantasies, whole thing on video, get your tissues ready.

Those are the words of a malicious person licking their chops in anticipation of a messy, humiliation-inducing scene they will relish. Those are the words of a person trying to waste my time with personal attacks when my time is best used educating audiences about the facts of human trafficking, prostitution, and pornography. The trash talk began within hours of being surreptitiously offered the spot on the panel, and that sort of smug pugnaciousness and disrespectful engagement was instrumental in prompting John to cancel his appearance on the panel and he suggested to me that I do the same. I believe we were right to cancel. I refuse to pose for the pornographically spiteful scene being painted.

What to do when a woman who says she’s happy in prostitution says, “Take me, for example” when you know if you actually do take her as her own example by quoting her own words and deeds she will complain, “How dare you make an example of me?” Say you’ll speak with her about prostitution as a global system and of all women’s oppression as the core problem but you don’t want to talk about her personally and she’ll reply, “You refuse to hear my truth.” If you talk about her personally like she insists then you’re the baddie radfem who makes it personal. It’s a lose-lose ruse.

Of course, Ren is really talking about actual sex workers actually having a chance to defend themselves and speak their experiences without the likes of Sam Berg claiming to speak for them…..but it’s never been Sam’s way to respect opposing views; it’s all about witnessing and pushing the ideology for her. Women like Ren tend to get in the way of proper APRF groupthink, you see.

Therefore, it’s so much easier to grab on the only anchor you can grasp on and attempt to use it as a club to beat Ren over her head with; thusly, the reliance on the “She threatened to KILL radical feminists!!!” card using the infamous “Fall under a truck and choke on your old blood” curse. As if, as others have well documented, they aren’t capable of doing so much worse.

But never fear, because Sam informs us that if she had been allowed the right to control the terms of the debate, she would have definitely kicked serious ass…at least, she so believes herself to be such a deep thinker and debater:

I’d love to debate a porn-user, and there are tens of millions of them. I’d love to debate a pornographer and there’s no lack of those either. I’d love to debate a john. They don’t want to debate anti-pornography and anti-prostitution feminists. They want women in the prostitute supply pool to subjectively defend them against the objective mounds of testimony and undeniable data that anti-pornstitution feminists can produce proving pornography and prostitution violate women and girls human rights immensely. Most of you have seen how deftly I wield the wealth of information I’ve collected in my noodle to make the case against men’s right to economically coerce sex from others. Some of you have seen me do it before with Ren.

She then manages to pull out of her….brain…..links to two PunkAssBlog threads where she crosses swords with Ren (of course, that still wonders why she still couldn’t show herself to actually debate Ren in an more neutral venue where she wouldn’t be as able to drop her stinkbombs).  Turns out, those threads just so happen to be the ones where good old R. Mildred (now with Kuntensquirten) dropped her inevitable bombs where she called yours truly “Ren’s pimp”; and where most of the APRF Peanut Gallery (including gayle, delphyne, Stormy, Witchy-Woo, and their man in waiting Jimmy Ho)  spent most of their bandwidth  labeling Ren and other defenders of sex workers as  beyond-the-pale deviant sex perverts.  Ahhh, yeah….a sterling example of honest, tempered debate.

Probably better for everyone that Sam chickened out in the end, though….at least Ren and Jill will be able to make their case without the noise and clucking of such crackpot bullshit artists.

Hmmmm….it seems that little middle-aged me has had quite an effect on a certain clique of antiporn “feminists”.

Just for fun and games, for hits and giggles, and to be totally nosy…errrrrr, informed, I decided to browse through the comments to Witchy-Woo’s aformentioned broadside against me for having the gall to question their unalienable right to bash women who don’t think that porn is the ultimate rape weapon and prostitution is the ultimate slavery.

What I found was so…well, interesting, that I had to share it with you. Rather than do the linkage thing, I will simply re-cut and paste the freshest insults…or feeble attempts thereof.

L.M. //

That I would perfectly agree with….now, where in any of my posts here or anywhere have I done such a thing as promote rape, then???

And maybe the reason why you get attacked as “man-hating sex prudes” is because…well….you just might BE man-hating sex prudes???

Oh…and why should “radical feminists” get all the credit for insisting on men to stop raping women?? I thought that that basic creed of feminism was simply plain common sense to ALL decent men AND women??

sparklematrix //

No, Sparkle….but the point was that SEX workers were being murdered, assaulted, and denied basic protections and humanity….and your side is doing all it can to deny them even more….unless, of course, they concede to your ideological definition of their existence. Oh, BTW…..last time I checked, Bob Jensen, Richard Leader, and John Stoltenberg were all men with, I assume, real live penises; will you attack them for that as well??? Oh, I forgot…they are totally on your side, so I guess that makes them “honorary women”???

thebewilderness //

Ah, yes, here we go now…..obviously, since I dare to question APRF ideology, I must be, like, a serial rapist or a genuine pimp only seeking to entrap and ensnare every woman I see…because only the most rabid penis-driven brute would ever disagree with the beauty and prestineness of antiporn feminist theory. Given all the women I’ve bedded, I should barely have time to write my blog. Or, so I wish. In your dreams, ladies.

stormy //

First off, Stormy, most of my time is spent at my job, where “slagging off radfems” is the furthest from my mind. I only do that during my off time.

Secondly, my measly salary won’t quite allow me to “use women as commodities” as much as you would think in your twisted mind.

Thirdly…does that mean that you’ll be gathering private information on my personal life, too, to be used as blackmail against me?? Don’t sing it, dearie…..bring it.

jennifer drew //

You know, Jennifer, I would agree with you wholeheartedly…except for the small issue that some women actually WANT to have men sexually accessible to them….and as long as they ask and seek willful consent, who the hell am I to object??? Actually, most men I know don’t want an “endless supply of sexually available girls” to rape and plunder; they just find beautiful women who acknowledge their gaze and their lusts to be sexually arousing and attractive. As long as they are able to respect them as full human beings otherwise, there is no case whatsoever for you to demean either the men or the women who seek and delight in that gaze.

Oh….and Hooters is sooooo past news; especially since see so much more skin and harass women in far more public venues.

And now, we get to the heavy hitters:

pisaquari //

Funny…but last time I noticed, this was located at Ren’s blog…..she invited “Dick”…..ahhhh, I mean, yours truly in to comment on Laurelin’s statement. But, I guess that that makes Ren part of the “Dick” conspiracy….if not a certified “Dick” herself???

And speaking thereof Laurelin, she gets her hooks in, too:

Laurelin //

Oh, Laurelin, you have outed me there….I am confessing right now that I am indeed a large consumer of porn….and indeed, I am Ren’s secret private john and pimp, paying her tens and ones of dollars under the cover to perform outrageous acts of freakery on me…and using her evol male patriachially-enduced sexuality to control the world through plastic tits and moist pussies and round asses!!! Feel my wrath, bee-yoches!!! BWWWHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!111ONE!!!

Or….not.

And about how I “speak” to women: Maybe you shuld know, Laurelin, that in my job, I am both over and supervised by women; I was raised by a woman, have four grown sisters, and communicate with women all my life. And yet, I manage not to rape. brutalize, or even insult any one of them. Gee, I must be really special to avoid all those temptations to rape and pillage with all the porn and prostituting you say I do.

Oh, but wait!!! Laurelin’s not quite finished:

polly styrene //

Yup, that would be a wonderful plan…..shoot all the men who have erections. And she says that I have the “illogicality gene”???

And finally, to wrap this up, Maggie Hays herself brings down the kitchen sink on me and all other :”Dicks” who dare to question her and her allies:

Maggie Hays //

Although I could go on a nice rant about the ininaties of Maggie’s blurbs, I’ve already done that previously…so I will just let her statement stand on its own dead weight and let you, the reader, pass final judgment.

Ahhh..such is the life of being a pro-porn Black male Leftist….if these fools are that discombubulated by little old me, then I must be doing something right in the world.

Keep it a coming, ladies….nothing heals quite like good smack.