Update: Well, surpuriiiiiiiiiizzzze, surpuriiiiiiiize, surprise, as Gomer Pyle (the original from Mayberry) would say: Good old Heart(less) has entered the fray in defense of the Grand GenderBorg Diva; yesterday she reposted the same edict from “Miss Sammi Berg” that Witchy and Laurelin posted before, and then allowed the Collective hivemind to vent their spleen. And they were all in attendence, too: Luckynkl, Arantxa, Laurelin, Maggie Hays, and a few other regulars all made proper comments defending Sam and praising Karla Mantilla for her sterling job as stand-in for the “censored” Sammi. Apparently, the new party line is that it was indeed Ren Ev who both set up the W&M panel to squeeze out Sam (with assistance from the panel organizer Constance, who obviously is hiding her genuine pro-porn bias) and planned the earlier bust-in of the Genderberg forums….and that they were exactly right in their efforts to seek out and destroy her….even if she was nowhere near there; or that the “Miriam” they did target turned out to by the wrong one. But, being a Womyns’ Warrior means never having to say “I’m sorry”, right??

The most significant lunacy — aside from the usual bit, which includes a testimonial of love from Karla — comes from this comment posted by Heart(less) further down the thread:

I’m moderating this thread strictly and won’t allow it to be pissed upon in any way, shape or form. At RE’s the male pornhounds — including a fairly scary hardcore sm pornographer — are there full force; some of the threads about this over there are about 90 percent men. I’m also going to be careful about approving men’s comments here, even friendly fire. Every woman here supports Sam and her decision and has said so very strongly, including Karla. I think we are in solidarity and it’s important that we stand in solidarity.

Oh, yeah, right…like actually going to Ren’s blog (and Heart should really get her blogs straight; since the Blog of Pro-Porn Activism is more a group effort (me, Ernest Greene, Ren Ev, Trinity, Amber Rhea, Iamcuriousblue…and BTW, that still doesn’t add up to 90% male, even using GenderBorg math), and actually reading the damn threads wouldn’t reveal that most of the posters there are indeed women (unless Rootentoot, Kim, Octaglore, Trinity, Belledame, Daisy, and the rest are hiding their dicks somewhere).  Or, like the fact that when you basically censor any attempt, however minor, to deviate from the group cult worship and the party line, of course you will say that “every woman here supports Sam and her decision”….because anyone who doesn’t simply gets nuked into silence.

And talk about spin that would impress even Bill O’Reilly; get a load of this from Heart(less):

Yes, I know what you mean, Arantxa and I know that they are spiteful towards Sam. But, in light of what they’ve said here, in the future they cannot claim (1) that radical feminists refuse to debate them so far as pornography goes; (2) that they all showed up for a debate and no radical feminist came; (3) that radical feminists mistreat them in debates. (4) that radical feminists are afraid to debate them; (5) that radical feminists cannot hold their own in debate. Posting their comments here creates a record of what has happened, a history. Whatever ends up gone in the future, for whatever reason, if posts or blogs are deleted, the record here remains and will not change.

Ahhh, OK…..so let me read that one more time: Sam invites herself to a debate; then chickens out when she can’t control who her opponent is…but it’s a victory for HER side because the other side was attempting to sandbag HER?!?!?!  Yeah, right, so that explains why the organizers were willing to invite the likes of Gail Dines or John Probert or Sam Berg in the first place???? Or the fact that they got Karla Mantilla to represent at the last minute, rather than just pulling out of the debate entirely??? Oh, but I thought that Ren was so violent against “radical feminists” that she would not even allow them to make even one statement before beating them up??  This is like the New England Patriots spinning that because they won 16 games this last NFL season and led for three quarters in the Super Bowl, they should be given the Super Bowl trophy despite losing the actual game to the New York Giants, regardless of the final score.  Actually, this is really more apropos to an old Dallas Cowboys fan saying that though their team didn’t even make the playoffs, they still should be ranked #1 because the ultimate winner was too scared to face the Cowboys anyway.

To paraphrase an old Olivia classic ballad title: Please, Mistress, Please.  This song is old and tiring.

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And the hits just keep on coming.

Apparently, Sam Berg didn’t think that her attempts to spin her way out of crawfishing out of the William and Mary debate wasn’t quite good enough, she has now, through the sockpuppetry of Witchy-Woo, fired a second blast attempting to shift the blame from her to Ren Ev and those evol, baaaaad “pro-pornies” who stalk “radical feminists” like her.

The most interesting facet about this latest round, though, is how Sammy attempts to twist and turn to her advantage a previous incident involving a momentary breach in the GenderBorg defense shields, and the paranoid reaction results.

Ren has ably and adeptly reset the entire background at her blog….but for the lazy, here’s the abridged edition:

Last year around this time, Pony — one of the principled commisars of the GenderBorg Collective — posted to the Genderberg forum’s supposedly protected firewalled section this comment attempting to dismiss Ren as a mere plant of “the pornographers”:

“I believe Ren Ev is porn marketing. There are many ways to market. What she’s doing is called astro turfing. I wrote about it in that other thread. This type of marketing gets those people who don’t like ads, but don’t get that ads can take many forms, and one of the most successful is to make the AD seem like a program, or an article, or a blog. She’s a front, something like BitchPhD is. That’s another type of advertising. Ren Ev’s being paid to popularize porn. No marketing initiative would ignore that type of marketing and the big porn market is now being managed by Time Warner and it’s peers with all their marketing engine. This astro turfing is far the most effective nowadays, when people are sick of ads, marketers can still use methods like this to slide by. All those people who are drawn to REs blog, daily grow more and more accustomed to seeing her as just another performer. She’s popularizing it. Taking the sting ot of it. Apparently she wrote about ass to mouth recently. No problem. Just use listerine. And they listen to her. She’s marketing. She’s archived by google. She comes up on searches for words and subject matter used in everyday searches. And that’s the point of her blog.”

Now, I’ll pass for now the question on how someone can be such a “porn marketer” without receiving one cent of payment….but that’s neither here nor there.

Anyways…someone who was formerly a regular at the G’Borg forum was so shaken by this statement that she decided to quit the forum…but not without sending the statement to her friend Soulhuntre, who then promptly, like a good radfem hater, alerted Ren by posting it to her blog as a comment on another thread on the Wheelock College antiporn whitewash…errrrr, conference. She also decided to come out public with her own brief blog, in which she promised to blow off the lid on what she called “radical feminist terrorism”. (The blog only lasted two posts, though, amid concerns raised about the practice of respecting the privacy of private forum content.)

Nevertheless, once the word got out to the G’Borg collective that their security was breached, the response was as rapid as the original Borg’s assimilation of galaxies. Accusations flew of forum hacking, of a “pro-porn” spy lurking within the G’Berg forums, of a plot by Ren Ev to infiltrate the Collective and destroy it from within…..in other words, the usual paranoia you’d expect from the Womyn Warrior Cult.

Ultimately, the main thrust of the fire was directed at Ren…..and thusly, we saw the beginnings of Stormcloud’s “bees” smack, as well as her subsequent declaration of full scale war on Ren through outing her and revealing her private information. Never mind that Ren actually deleted the offending citation when called out on it, or that she never physically threatened or even emailed Sam and the G’Borg folks on the subject of their firewall breach…..in their minds, Ren had to be swiftly punished, and soon.

So..what does this have to do with the present fracus?? In a name: “Miriam”.

You see, “Miriam” used to be Ren Ev’s old Internet handle; she used it for her old LiveJournal diary as well as a earlier version of her blog, and she had even kept a Blogger profile using that old handle.

Well….one of their efforts to smear and out Ren/”Miriam” for being such a deviant from the GenderBorg collective hivethink consisted of an email that Sam apparantly sent to a “Miriam” that was briefly a member of the G’berg forums at that time….and was allegedly being assumed to be Ren Ev attempting to undercut the forums from within. An excerpt, posted by Sam this morning via Witchy-Woo:

“I feel bad for you because you’ve obviously been seriously fucked up by people in your life, but if you don’t back off slagging on radfems you’re going to force my hand.I can prove you committed fraud when you lied to moderator deedle about your gb membership, and I can prove you were the one who leaked Pony’s words. Because you’re a pathological liar, you’re probably thinking you can lie your way out of this just like you’ve done other times.You can’t.

I didn’t out you before because I have a soft spot for seriously fucked up women like yourself, but I’m not above initiating legal action to show the ex-sex workers in my little community that their privacy and continued peace of mind is something I take very seriously. If you cared about sex workers one tenth as much as you manipulatively tell people you do then you would not have violated a sex worker-heavy community like you did.

Stop telling lies, Miriam. You’re not as good at it as you think you are.”

(Why does that sound like Sam is quoting Stormy verbatum??? The hive mentality thinking alike, perhaps???)

Now, if Ren actually did attempt to join the Genderberg forums to do such mayhem, then this would only be farcical and ridiculous.

Problem was…..Ren never did such a thing.

And even worse: it seems that in the process of their vendetta against Ren, they might have struck an innocent bystander.

Turns out, that there was indeed a G’Berg member named “Miriam” who did post as a radfem antiporn opponent (you couldn’t even get into the G’Berg forums otherwise)….and when she recieved the email that Sam sent accusing her of “slagging radical feminists” and being Ren in disguise, she freaked out enough that a friend sent an email of protest to Sam about the mistaken identity. Ren went ahead and posted the full content of that email at her blog today (she had hesitated before because the other “Miriam” hadn’t allowed permission to print, but apparently she got so tired of Sam’s shit-spinning that she gave Ren the go-ahead).

Here’s some excerpts (the full text is at Ren’s blog, emphasis added by me):

This morning I received a very worried email from “Miriam,” in response to an email I guess you sent her yesterday (below.) This “Miriam” is actually a woman who has commented only occasionally at my blogs and we have exchanged the occasional email on certain feminist topics. Apparently she attempted to join GBerg sometime last year but I believe she has never posted there to date. Perhaps that is how you came by her email?

She was very upset by your email — who wouldn’t be, I suppose — as she is not up on all the Blog War Drama and had no clue what you were referring to.

Putting 2 and 2 together I think you are assuming this “Miriam” is Renegade Evolution, as I learned on that gigantic thread at Witchy’s that Ren used to go by the name Miriam also.

I assure you, the woman you emailed yesterday is NOT Renegade Evolution, nor has any relationship with any feminist bloggers other than myself. She doesn’t even have a blog.

I told her I would email you in attempt to clear this up as she is pretty shaken by this.

I think well of you enough, Sam, to feel you would never intentionally hurt/upset a woman in this way and I do believe you sent this email to “my Miriam” in error.

(As far as what other drama/issues surround you and other Bloggers, that is your business and I would rather not discuss that.)

I ask you please not contact “my Miriam” further — except maybe with a brief email explaining you mistook her for someone else and not to worry?

I will keep this information between you and I and “my Miriam”, as I have no desire to be drawn into any more blog drama than I have been in the past.

Ren also happened to document Sam’s response to “The Other Miriam” as well, which says a lot in so few words:

Hi —–,

If she’s not the same Miriam then I apologize.

sincere warm wishes to you,

Sam

Apparantly, it’s not so warm today….especially when Sam decided to launch a new charge that “The Other Miriam” — the one she delivered her email warning to — was in fact the GenderBorg leaker, and was also the founder of the supposed “Radical Feminist Terrorism” blog, too….even implying not so subtly that Ren/Miriam was behind it all. Back we go to Sam’s most recent fax:

Throughout May and June the moderators at Genderberg worked like demons to try and figure out which of the 100 or so members was the leak. We ask every member a series of questions before approving them and we were going member by member to try and restore some of the lost sense of security that made one prostituted woman feel she had to leave GB. By early July we pooled our research and figured out that the leak was someone who registered as “Miriam” with a bunch of hooey about being anti-pornography and caring about prostituted women. I deleted “Miriam” from the memberlist and sent her the following email…

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Now ask yourself why RenEv thinks my email to Miriam threatening to reveal that I know Miriam wrote the Radical Feminist Terrorism blog was somehow a threat to reveal personal information about RenEv.

“The following email”, BTW, was the email thusly sent to “The Other Miriam”.

And actually, the threat to reveal personal info on Ren Ev actually took place at Witchy’ s blog a bit later on, by Stormy.

Either way, no one really knows who it was that actually did leak out the original forum blast at “Ren Ev the Porn Marketing Expert”; or who it was that founded the RFT blog. (Although, there was a former radfem who used to have a real vendetta against Heart, even going as far as to mock her ID handle; she might be more the person to pull such a trick like that on her own.)

What we undisputatively know, though, is that an innocent woman — a radical, antiporn feminist, even — has been basically pilloried, smeared, and ultimately shamed in public for a crime she didn’t commit….and the best that Sam Berg can offer her is a flippant “If you weren’t whom I was targeting, I apologize…Warmest wishes” back then?!?!?! And she still attempts to slander “The Other Miriam” now with the same charge today???

Such mighty defenders and protectors of women, this GenderBorg collective is….’ya think???

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